Random draft thoughts around the NFC East: Rethinking 1st/2nd round combos for the Giants, the cluster of WRs near Terrance Williams, more Amerson, and the Eagles’ rookie numbers

Redskins

I did a three-part series on the Redskins’ first pick (which was in the second round), NC State CB David Amerson. His game tape (or YouTube tape or whatever) was about as fun to watch as any player I’ve seen this offseason. The difference between his 2011 season and 2012 season was night and day, and I don’t just mean that in terms of his production. He has 13 INTs in 2011, and that number fell off to 5 in 2012. 5 INTs is still pretty freaking good, as long as you’re not gambling on everything, which Amerson was.

But for me, the biggest difference was his willingness to be physical in 2011. In 2012, he shied away from contact like a timid version of Asante Samuel. It was downright strange how different a player he was. Here’s the series:

David Amerson film review, Part I

David Amerson film review, Part II

David Amerson film review, Part III 

Giants

When the Giants were on the clock at pick 19, 6 offensive linemen had already come off the board:

1st rd OL

The Giants of course selected Justin Pugh. Was it a “need pick?” Were they going to draft an offensive lineman come hell or high water? The Giants are too well run to let details of their draft board leak, so we’ll never know if they had Florida DT Sharrif Floyd rated higher than Pugh or not. A few days ago, I did a breakdown of Pugh, and have come around on the pick. However, with hindsight being 20/20, and having the benefit of knowing how the 2nd round played out, would you have rather drafted Floyd and either Kentucky OG Larry Warford or Arkansas Pine Bluff OT Terron Armstead, who were both available at the Giants pick at 49? Or would you be content with the way it played out? Both scenarios have an OL/DT combo:

Cowboys

The one Cowboys pick that seems to be universally accepted was Terrance Williams in the 3rd round. I’m on board there as well. My initial thoughts on Williams after they made the pick:

Pick # 74 Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor: Really nice value here for the Cowboys. I remember watching the absurd Baylor vs. West Virginia game earlier this year, which was basically Geno Smith and Company vs. Terrance Williams. Williams had 17 catches for 314 yards and 2 TDs in that game. Here are Williams’ career receiving numbers:

Terrance Williams

Look at that 2012 season. 18.9 yards per catch on 97 catches. That’s outstanding. Williams has good size at 6’2, 208, and should probably be plugged right in as the 4th WR in the short term behind Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Dwayne Harris, and becoming the eventual successor to Austin. Just to note, Austin is locked in as a Cowboy for the next two years, at a minimum:

Miles

However, although I liked the pick, there were three WRs drafted directly after Williams who I liked a little more:

  • Pick #76 Keenan Allen, Cal, drafted by the Chargers.
  • Pick #78 Marquise Goodwin, Texas, drafted by the Bills.
  • Pick #79 Markus Wheaton, Oregon State, drafted by the Steelers.

I had a chance to observe both Goodwin and Wheaton at the Senior Bowl. Goodwin has the potential to be a terrifying game breaker. Here’s what I wrote about him back in February:

Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas: If one of your favorite team’s division rivals drafts this guy, your immediate reaction should be “Crap.” Goodwin’s speed and quickness are off the charts. Here’s Goodwin competing in the triple jump and clearing 50 feet, 3 inches:

Think about what 50 feet, 3 inches is. That would be like a player triple jumping from the 16 yard line and landing in the end zone with plenty of room to spare. In fact, that might be the best TD celebration ever if Marquise ever finds himself with a runaway TD opportunity.

During one session in which receivers were running the route tree (no defenders on the field), one of the QBs had gotten into a rhythm throwing out routes to normal-speed receivers. When it was Goodwin’s turn, he had run his out route so fast that he was standing on the sideline, waiting for the ball to come to him.

But it’s not just that he’s fast. He ran great routes, and showed good hands, with his highlight being a diving, full-extension catch near the sideline. Goodwin is a scary home run threat, who at the very least will be be able to stretch the field, but I think he can be more than that. He also showed during the season that he can be physical:

Now, I’m not down with 15 yard penalties, but I think on some level this shows that Goodwin is a football player, not just a track star.

I can’t wait to see his numbers at the Combine.

He ran a 4.27. That guy scares me more than Williams. Then again, I’m just a blogger boy and not an NFL scout.

Eagles

Kudos to the Eagles for releasing the numbers of their rookies quickly. I’m about to out myself as a loser. Back in the day, after any Eagles draft, I would blow through a season of Madden in franchise mode, so I could get to the draft. I would then draft players whose positions/attributes matched up with the players the Eagles drafted, and edit their names, heights, weights, etc. I was always annoyed that I didn’t have their numbers. That usually took at least a month. Girlfriendless Jimmy of yesteryear salutes your quick number distribution, Eagles. Anyway, here are the new numbers, in order of draft position:

  • 65 – Lane Johnson
  • 86 – Zach Ertz
  • 96 – Bennie Logan
  • 2 – Matt Barkley
  • 28 – Earl Wolff
  • 73 – Joe Kruger
  • 33 – Jordan Poyer
  • 78 – David King

I like 73 for Kruger. Please don’t ask me why. I don’t have a good reason. I don’t like 33 for Poyer. That just seems like a “cut me” number, but at least it’s not in the 40′s.

The one number that stands out though, is #2 for Barkley. I asked on Twitter if anybody could name a good NFL QB other than Matt Ryan who wore #2. The best people could come up with was Doug Flutie.

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34 Comments

  1. [...] Sharrif Floyd and either Kentucky OG Larry Warford or Arkansas Pine Bluff OT Terron Armstead instead of Justin Pugh and Jonathan Hankins. Warford and Armstead were both available at the Giants pick at 49. Both scenarios have an OL/DT [...]

  2. mgrisez says:

    i am more surprised they let Barkley have 2 after Akers, he was kind of a big deal

  3. Brett says:

    Redskins draft class is boom or bust. They didn’t have a first round pick so they figured, hey lets go with a bunch of ballhawks and maybe one pans out. And lets take some more RBs while we’re at it.

    Also when is the last time a QB was faster than your starting RB. Somewhere Osi is laughing at Lady Gaga.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/02/mccoy-challenges-old-man-vick-to-race-and-gets-smoked/

    1. Jimmy Kempski says:

      Not a surprise at all. Jason Kelce and Evan Mathis ran better short shuttles at the Combine than Shady did at his pro day (no combine workout), although in fairness, Mathis and Kelce had ridiculous numbers. McCoy’s measurables were kind of “meh.” He should know better than to challenge Vick in a race.

      1. Bob says:

        I thought you were saying earlier in the year Vick had lost that elite speed?

          1. Bob says:

            Can’t have lost that much of it if he’s faster than McCoy.

    2. dans105 says:

      Griffin is definitely faster than Morris.

      1. Brett says:

        Lol not today.

  4. McMuffin says:

    I have a problem with Johnson using the mighty departed King Dunlap number, besides a 60 on a lineman just looks weak imo.

    1. mgrisez says:

      69? Runyan, Mathis

  5. Dez Bryant's Probation Officer says:

    Let’s hope he doesn’t play like number two.

  6. Rooby Dooby Doo says:

    Well, Barkley can change his number to 7 after Vick is gone next year.

    1. mjoedgaard says:

      The cut for a “tall” WR seems to be 6-0. Thats not a tall WR.

  7. ct17 says:

    You fail to account for Austin’s next contract restructuring.

    I really liked Wheaton. For the Giants, I would have gone Trufant-Warford-Brandon Williams. I like Herman better than Pugh.

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  9. immynimmy says:

    Da’Rick Rogers is the best WR in this class. Do your homework, man.

  10. 4real says:

    I think Terrance Williams is The Best WR in this Draft ,Numbers dont lie ! Patterson ,& Goodwin are Combine freaks ,Austin short ,now Hopkins good all around,Allen way to slow.

  11. ATLeagle says:

    33 is ok, it is right near a half a minute, so it is good for rounding to on the ” microwave time by name” scale. Any number just over/under 60 and 90 is good for this also…. 2 hot dogs, cook them for a bennie logan, two turkey dogs however, those just need to cook for an Ertz.

  12. CDIBM says:

    Did you see how open Goodwin was before his block? It’s a walk-in TD if the QB just throws it to him.

  13. Skulman7 says:

    Not good QBs, but Aaron Brooks, Tim Couch lol

    1. Skulman7 says:

      *wore 2 that is

  14. The options for Poyer were 33, 38, 39, 45, 47, 48, and 49. It’s the best of a bad lot. It’s possible he shifts to a number in the 20s at some point (after cut-downs or next year) as many backs do once they “make it”.

    1. Yeah, all of those are terrible, although oddly, 33 actually doesn’t seem awful for a RB. Tony Dorsett, Roger Craig, etc.

      1. Charles Tillman is ok. But remember, these things change. Dawk was 24 before he was 20. LeSean was 29 before 25. If he’s good, he will probably switch to a better number: at least two of 21, 27, 29 and 31 should be available if he makes the team.

        1. T_S_O_P says:

          And Reggie was #91 before he was #92

  15. abrad45 says:

    so we drafted Matt Ryan, hmm?

    1. Lol, derp on me.

  16. Sam says:

    We drafted Matt Ryan! I think he’ll win the quarterback competition.

      1. Sam says:

        So close lol

      2. Actually, Sam beat you. Newer comments are at the top. :P

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