Well, it jumped up a notch in the comment section of the Cowboys draft recap yesterday. I mean… that really escalated quickly. It was so much fun, that I’m almost tempted to bash the crap out of the Giants’ draft, but unfortunately, I liked what they did. Stupid Giants ruining my fun. Let’s get right to it:
David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech, First Round, 32nd overall
Did the Giants really want this guy? Jerry Reese says that he was the 2nd rated RB on the Giants’ board. I don’t believe him. For full disclosure, I don’t have any inside information that would lead me to make such a bold proclamation as to say Reese is lying. In other words, I fully acknowledge that my reasoning for calling BS is absolutely nothing more than speculation and perhaps a little imagination, but here’s what I wrote immediately after they made the pick:
(First the facts):
- Tampa traded up ahead of the Giants to 31.
- Tampa drafted Boise St. RB Doug Martin, a player that was unanimously more highly rated than Virginia Tech RB David Wilson.
- The Giants, unlike pretty much every other team in the first round, used up the entire allotted time to make their pick.
- They Giants then chose Wilson.
OK, now here’s what I think may have happened:
- The Giants wanted to pick Martin.
- He got snagged from under their clutches.
- They tried to trade out.
- They didn’t find any suitors.
- They settled on Wilson.
OK, so here’s my official follow up analysis: “So what?”
I think I like Wilson better than Doug Martin. First, for a guy his size, he runs very hard. He’ll put his head down and will not shy away from contact. Couple that with outstanding burst through the hole, sharp cutbacks, great speed, and as my buddy Kunal noted in his roundup of the Giants’ draft, he’s a lot like LeSean McCoy in many ways.
Here are the big differences. In LeSean McCoy’s three year NFL career, he has 5 fumbles. That’s excellent. He is also a very good pass blocker, and a weapon in the passing game.
Wilson will need to work on his pass protection and receiving ability, but the real red flag is that in his last season at VT, David Wilson had 7 fumbles. Not good. Even more alarming, in my opinion, was his attitude about fumbling:
“I’m not going to think about it. Fumbles happen. If you think about it, it’s just going to get worse,” he said this week. “There’s no trend. It’s not like I’m holding the ball loose or anything. It’s just they punch it right out. There’s nothing I can do about it. It’s just hold the ball and run.”
Yikes. Hate that part where he says “There’s nothing I can do about it.”
Still, Tom Coughlin and his staff have worked wonders curing RB’s of their tendency to put the ball on the turf, first with Tiki Barber, and then again with Ahmad Bradshaw. If there’s a team in the NFL that has a track record of that kind of thing, it is definitely the Giants. If some other team made this pick, I don’t think I’d be on board, but I like it for the Giants.
From a “need” perspective, the pick makes sense. The Giants have nothing in the way of adequate depth at RB, and Ahmad Bradshaw has more nuts and bolts in his foot than Bob Vila has in his tool shed. If I have one minor gripe, Cordy Glenn was somehow still on the board at 32. I thought he could start from Day 1 for the Giants, whether that be at LG, or RT.
By the way, love the Giants reaction to the pick at Radio City Music Hall. “Who? David Wilson? Ah, screw it, we won the Super Bowl. High 5’s all around.”
Much more after the jump…
Rueben Randle, WR, LSU, Second Round, 63rd overall
Speed? Check. Size? 6’4, 210. OK, so size and speed are great and all, but it doesn’t mean jack if you’re not physical (See Ramses Barden). Rueben Randle is. This is an absolute steal at the back end of the 2nd round. His production isn’t overly impressive (53 catches, 917 yards and 8 TD in 2011), but a lot of that was due in part to a somewhat of a weak passing attack at LSU. This is a really athletic kid that could become a special player.
I am, however, skeptical that he’ll be the #3 to start the season. The Giants lost Mario Manningham to the 49ers, and it was looking like the Giants might have to roll with Ramses Barden, Jerrel Jernigan, or Domenik Hixon as their 3 this season. I still believe that’s the case. Randle comes from a caveman passing attack at LSU to a very precise one in NJ. I think the Giants would be smart to try to ease him in slowly.
Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech, Third Round, 94th overall
Had 9 picks in 2010, but fell all the way to the back end of the 3rd round because he struggled in 2011, and then failed a drug test at the Combine. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to fail a drug test at the freaking COMBINE. Mel Kiper reviewed all the potential Virginia Tech draftees:
“I loved Hosley a couple years ago when he was making all those plays, all those interceptions,” Kiper said. “This year, he looked like to me something was just missing with his game. He was beaten. The awareness, the instincts at his position you didn’t see that you did two years ago.”
Kiper said Hosley’s size (5-10, 175 pounds) will work against him to a certain extent, but the bigger drawback was that he simply wasn’t as good in coverage last year.
“[That] was something that was the reason he was so highly regarded going in,” Kiper said.
He pegs Hosley as a possible second round pick but added that he thinks third round is more likely.
The Giants are hoping they can get the kid that played so well in 2010. Anyway, good value here for the G Men.
Also, I already posted this but will do so again. Here’s a great article on the NFL Draft by Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi, who gives Hosley a mention in his “the weed guy isn’t so bad” section:
DRAFT THE WEED GUY
Every year, there are players who fall dramatically in the pre-draft process because they’ve been caught smoking weed. A short list of those guys includes Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Percy Harvin and Aaron Hernandez. Guys who punch women or drive pickup trucks into old folks’ homes: bad investments. Guys who smoke dope in college? Well, that’s basically every single person in America.
I’m not going to say smoking weed is good for your health, but when it comes to football, I’d much rather have my rocked-up 270-pound monster stoned, giggling and watching cartoons than drunk, belligerent, and stumbling toward his car in the parking lot of an Atlanta strip club.
This year, it seems crazy that Notre Dame wideout Michael Floyd, who has three alcohol-related arrests in his past, is being talked about as a top-10 pick, while ass-kicking North Alabama (and former Florida) corner Janoris Jenkins, who has three weed incidents, is being talked about as someone who might be undraftable.
Jenkins is the big weed bargain in this draft, but Virginia Tech’s super-fast corner Jayron Hosley is another. Both of those guys can really play and I’ll bet they both become excellent pros – for a while, anyway. A third case, Arizona linebacker and Ray Lewis wannabe Vontaze Burfict, I wouldn’t touch. Not because of a failed drug test, though, but just because he sucks. Oh, and because he tried to rehab his image by giving an interview to Sports Illustrated – while chilling in Las Vegas.
Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati, Fourth Round, 127th overall
His 4-year career at Cincinnati: 29 catches, 434 yards, 5 TD. I’ll say here what I said about the Cowboys’ selection of the equally unproductive TE James Hanna:
I hope he can block.
Except in this case… He can! Back in March, when Martellus Bennett was first visiting with the Giants, I really liked the idea of him in NJ:
I’ve been poking fun at Marty B for years now, but I actually REALLY like the fit for him with the Giants, and to be perfectly honest, I hadn’t thought of it. The Giants LOVE using an extra offensive tackle for max protect, and while Bennett’s receiving numbers are rather comical, I’ll give credit where it’s due… He can block. Bennett is not a #1 TE that is going to catch 40+ balls over the course of the season. Repeat… Bennett is not a #1 TE. But I think he’d be great as a role player with the Giants, specifically as an extra blocker in the jumbo package, assuming he wasn’t serious about the comments he made about wanting to be the #1 guy.
I think that’s also a role that could suit Robinson. Bennett is only with the Giants on a one-year deal.
Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn, Fourth Round, 131st overall
Matt McCants, OT, AUB, Sixth Round, 201st overall
Matt McCants attended the Sr Bowl this year, which I covered for 4 days down in Mobile, AL. He might be among maybe 10 players (if that) that I didn’t take a single note on. Oops. That’s not to say he played poorly (he would have been mentioned if I had noticed poor play). I guess I wish I had paid a little closer attention to him. Oh well. Anyway, both players will serve as depth, which the Giants don’t have much of at the tackle position. In fact, the Giants don’t really even have an adequate starter at RT, as David Diehl was one of the worst starting offensive linemen in the league last year.
Mosley is excellent value in the 4th. Nice value for the Giants here. Mosley played a wide variety of positions before coming to Auburn. According to my boy Tommy Lawlor of IgglesBlitz, Mosley is an athletic convert to OT:
Interesting background. 2-year starter at OT after coming over from (Junior College), where he split time at DE and TE. Was a TE/LB in high school. Auburn was his first time on the OL and he did a very good job considering that. Not a polished player, as you would imagine, but has good size and is a natural athlete.
Side note on McCants: He’s one of my newest Twitter followers, ha. Pretty good chance he’ll follow you back if you follow him first, but if you’re interested in that kind of thing, you better do it fast before he has too many people following him, and vice versa. So go follow him and see what happens.
Markus Kuhn, DT, North Carolina State, Seventh Round, 239th overall
Giants are pretty stacked at DT. Throwing darts.
Positions that could be addressed, and did the Giants address them?
For this section, we’ll look back to what I wrote about each team in the mega-preview from last Thursday, and see if each team addressed each spot.
Preview: Tight End: Jake Ballard and Travis Beckum likely aren’t going to be ready to go when the 2012 season begins. The team signed Martellus Bennett, a move that I actually liked despite Bennett’s chronic underachieving, but only to a one-year deal. The Giants could look to draft a player that can be a long-term answer, although it’s a weak TE class.
Addressed? Drafted Adrien Robinson
Preview: Right Tackle: Kareem McKenzie and Chris Snee, in my opinion, were the best tandem RG/RT in the NFL in 2010. In 2011, the play of both players fell off dramatically, especially McKenzie’s. The team told Kareem to find a new home (which he hasn’t done yet), and it appears that they plan on moving David Diehl over to RT. Diehl was abysmal in 2011, and is in my opinion, a liability. Major hole to fill here for the Giants.
Addressed? Not this season, but they might have something in either Mosley or McCants if the Giants can develop them.
Preview: Guard: I really like Kevin Boothe, but I like him in the exact role he played last season… a valuable backup at multiple positions along the line. The Giants started the season will David Diehl at LG, and Diehl was a horror show. When LT Will Beatty was lost for the season with an eye injury, Diehl kicked out from LG to LT, Boothe filled in at LG, and played far better than Diehl had. At the time, I remember thinking “Hmmm… Diehl-Boothe-Baas is the trio protecting Eli’s blind side? The Giants are done.” Oops. I know a number of fans are high on Mitch Petrus, but I haven’t seen much to get fired up about when he has gotten opportunities. I know I wouldn’t want to count on Petrus to start 16 games for me. The Giants would be wise to find themselves a new LG and move Boothe back into the role where he’s the best fit. Guard is a very deep position in this draft, and the Giants could have options in every round here.
Preview: #3 Wide Receiver: Mario Manningham is gone. Do you trust the next guy to step up (something the Giants have had some luck with), or do you bring in outside help? This year, the “next guy up” is either Ramses Barden or Jerrel Jernigan. Again, very deep class at WR. Extremely deep. I’d be very surprised if the Giants didn’t find themselves a nice WR in Day 2 or 3.
Preview: #2 Running back: Brandon Jacobs is gone (rightfully). Ahmad Bradshaw has foot issues, so a backup is pretty essential to the Giants. I don’t believe Danny Ware is that guy, and I’m not sure the team trusts Da’Rel Scott just yet. Andre Brown will start the year sitting at home for 4 weeks since after being busted for using PED’s – He probably won’t make the team.
Preview: Linebacker: Does it make sense to move Mathias Kiwanuka back to the DL rotation after Osi Umenyiora is gone? I wonder if that’s how the team is thinking. If so, they’ll need someone to groom behind him. Otherwise, I kinda like the Giants rotation at LB, depending on whether or not newly acquired LB Keith Rivers is healthy.
Preview: Safety: The Giants probably have the best safety in the NFCE in Kenny Phillips, but I’m not exactly Antrel Rolle’s biggest fan at the other safety spot. Extremely weak safety class this year… probably not an option.
Preview: Cornerback depth: I still think the Giants need help at CB. Terrell Thomas is no sure thing, and once you get past Prince Amukamara, you’re looking at average depth. Since Jerry Reese took over in 2007, the Giants have drafted 5 CB’s. Two of them were in the first round (Amukamara, Aaron Ross), and one was a 2 (Terrell Thomas).
Addressed? Yes. Drafted Jayron Hosley.
Preview: Defensive tackle depth: Marvin Austin hasn’t played since 2009. Is he a player or not? I have no idea. I doubt the Giants really know for sure either. He’s their only legitimate depth at DT. Need bodies.
Addressed? Yes. After I published the mega-preview, the Giants announced they signed Shaun Rogers the day of the first round. They also drafted Markus Kuhn in the 7th round.
Preview: Defensive end: OK, not a need, but I think we all know they’re going to draft at least one, just because that’s what they do.
Addressed? Shocker! No DE this year.
Another strong draft for the Giants; just a bunch of supremely athletic kids in need of some refining, that could be spot contributors in Year 1, but impact players down the line.