RG3 to Philly? It’s actually not that crazy

Apparently, Robert Griffin III met with the Eagles last night:

So, RG3 met w/ #Eagles last night. He's type of athletic QB Andy Reid & organization covets. RG3 heir to Vick? Anything is possible!
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Chris Steuber

 

Call it due diligence or whatever you may, but really, it wouldn’t be a complete shock to see the Eagles make some sort of blockbuster trade to move up to 2 to get him.  Here’s what I wrote way back when it looked like the Eagles would be drafting in the Top 10 and guys like Matt Barkley were still in play:

As a disclaimer, college football isn’t my bag.  I’m not going to sit here and pontificate on the merits of Matt Barkley or Robert Griffin III, when really, I’ve only casually watched them play in between folding laundry and napping on the sofa on Saturdays.  I’ll leave the scouting work to the folks that have a semblance of a clue about whether those guys look like future Super Bowl winners or not.  But the general consensus is that the QB class this year is extremely strong, as there are going to be 5 QBs in this upcoming draft that are looking like first round picks: Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, Robert Griffin III, Landry Jones, and Ryan Tannehill.

Michael Vick will turn 32 next June.  Over the past two seasons, he has suffered a wide assortment of injuries: ribs, concussion, dirt in the eyes, etc.  When he’s healthy, he’s one of the most dangerous players in the NFL, as evidenced by his 2nd place finish in the MVP balloting a year ago.  He’s the Eagles’ QB now, and will almost certainly be the guy in 2012 as well.

In August, Vick signed a contract extension that his agent framed as a 6 year, $100 million deal.  In reality, as Pro Football Talk put it, “as a practical matter it’s probably worth $48 million over three years.”

Year 1 is already over and done with.

There are currently 6 teams that have a worse record than the Philadelphia Eagles.  It’s looking like they’re almost certain to be drafting in the Top 10 of the 2012 NFL draft.

Not to go ultra obvious here, but think of the 5 best teams in the NFL, whoever they may be in your opinion.  OK, now, who ya got as your 5 best QBs in the NFL?  There’s some overlap there, no?

Would the Eagles dare draft a QB?  Two or three years ago, probably not.

Consider Mark Sanchez in 2009.  He was drafted 5th overall.  His contract: 5 years, $44.5 million.  However, with more reasonable rookie contracts under the new CBA, drafting a QB in the first round isn’t anywhere near as costly/risky.  Jake Locker, for example, was drafted 8th overall this year.  His contract: 4 years, $12.58 million.  Compare that with the $5 million Vince Young is making this season.

I think most Eagles fans have stamped in permanent ink that they want a LB in the first round this year.  I can certainly empathize with that sentiment, as the Eagles have had a comical cavalcade of LB ineptness over the last decade+.  But if the Eagles really like a QB (and I won’t even get into the whole aspect of the possibility of a new head coach), can they really pass on him if they think he can lead them to a Super Bowl, in favor of a linebacker?

Now, in the Jake Locker example I gave above, I was looking at the situation as if the Eagles would be picking somewhere between 5-10.  But at 2, RG3 would cost a boatload more, right?

Meh, not really.  In 2010, Sam Bradford went #1 overall.  His contract: 6 years, $78 million, or $13 million per season.  A new CBA later, and Cam Newton was drafted #1 overall.  His deal?  A comparatively paltry 4 year deal worth $22 million, or $5.5 million per season.

The two usual suspects whenever you hear about teams moving up to 2 to grab RG3 are of course the Redskins (6th overall) and the Browns (4th overall).  Of the two teams, the Browns have the most firepower to move up.  They have the higher pick at 4, and an additional pick in the first round, due to the Julio Jones trade last year.  However, the Eagles also have some legitimate pieces to trade away in their own right.  While they draft a little further down at 15, they have 10 draft picks, including an extra 2 from the Kevin Kolb trade, an extra 4, and possibly a decent pick upcoming if/when they deal Asante Samuel.

If the Eagles do indeed fall in love with RG3 (and they’d REALLY have to fall in love with him), it all depends on how much they like RG3 (or rather how much more they like him than the Skins and Browns), and how much they’re willing to give up to go get him.

Long shot?  No question.  But it’s really not that crazy.

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  34. Chet says:

    Howie strikes me as the type of guy who could be this bold. Trent Edwards could be the perfect “misdirection” play. Who thought we were in the running for Nnamdi? It’s not like the Eagles are very good with their mid-round 1st round picks anyway: Watkins? Graham? Bunkley? Andrews? McDougle? Give up our 2012 and 2013 1st rounder, along with a 2nd this year, a 4th this year and DeSean Jackson. That’s a huge haul for the Rams. The Eagles don’t have many needs this year anyway – we don’t need 10 draft picks.

  35. Roy says:

    Tony Pauline @TonyPauline

    Hearing St Louis Rams had informal talks w/ Redskins today about 2nd pick. Doing everything possible to move the pick: tfydraft.com

    Personally, I believe the Skins will do whatever it takes to get RGIII. I mean, they’ll throw in Laron Landry, rights to parking lot revenues, Dan Synder’s private jet. Anything. And this makes sense not only from a football perspective, but a business one. After all, this is a franchise that’s removing seats from their stadium — oh, sorry, I mean creating “party decks” — because it’s such a dismal place to be every season. No one needs excitement like the Skins. And they’re in prime position to reach for #2, with money to burn.

  36. Roy says:

    The Skins will take RGIII. It’s in the air. Sorry, Eagles fans.

  37. deg0ey says:

    I still don’t think it’s a given that the Colts take Luck instead of RG3 – this entire conversation could well be moot

  38. Kyle S says:

    Its really manageable there was already talk of the eagles getting a 2nd last year for asante from Detroit but lets say they trade Asante and Djax and possibly another pick to the jags for their 1st pick from there they still have 2 1st rounders (ours, jags) and possibly still the 2 second rounders to trade up to get him would be easier then the skins with no ammo and the browns who are rebuilding and might not want to trade away all the picks they got to help them rebuild and gain depth any way. Unless howie wants to be like belichick and continually trade first round picks with teams every year until then find the player they want (a la saints pats trade last year) i bet he is thinking he has the ammo to get rg3 this year he might not have the ammo to get a qb like this when/if vick’s health and age problems catch up with him and the team

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  41. Greenbean#twoOH says:

    Obviously an uber long shot….but if they were to be able to package something along the lines of a 1, 4, Asante, and a pick next year…that’s HIGHLY worth it..

  42. Anders says:

    If AR is really in love with him, I wouldnt mind it aslong as the trade value is fair

  43. Tracer Bullet says:

    RGIII is currently being interviewed on NFLN. When asked who he watched to develop his game, his first answer was Randall Cunningham. They should do whatever it takes to get him.

    1. Euler.is.a.pimp says:

      Are those two thoughts connected?

      I grew up watch Randall. Draft me too!

  44. ICDogg says:

    Don’t bogart that joint.

    1. Ha, not saying I think it’ll happen, or even that it’s anything more than a long shot. Just saying there’s a case to be made for it if they think he can be a star QB.

  45. KJ Brophy says:

    It is when everyone thinks your coach is on the hot seat

  46. Scott says:

    Personally I would LOVE to see Philly draft RG3. I can’t think of another player that I’d rather take in the 1st round. Unfortunately its highly doubtful it happens.

  47. BBI says:

    You guys would probably have to give up your 1, 2, 2, and another conditional high draft pick (2013 3rd turning into a 2nd).

    1. True, but they’d still likely have 8 picks in 2012 in that scenario.

  48. Tracer Bullet says:

    It really is that crazy. It would take the better part of two entire drafts to move up 13 spots and that’s not taking a bidding war into account. RGIII is a unique talent and I hope he knocks up my sister, but I’d rather not see the Eagles pay the price to get him.

    1. “RGIII is a unique talent and I hope he knocks up my sister”

      Ha

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