Giants: before Halloween, after Halloween

Giants record, 2008-2010, before Halloween:

Before Halloween W L Pct.
Giants 16 5 0.762

Giants 2011 schedule before Halloween:

Schedule before Halloween W L Pct.
At Redskins 3 3  
Rams 0 6  
At Eagles 2 4  
At Cardinals 1 5  
Seahawks 2 4  
Bills 4 2  
Dolphins 0 6  
  12 30 0.286

Giants record, 2008-2010, after Halloween:

After Halloween W L Pct
Giants 14 13 0.519

Giants 2011 schedule after Halloween:

Schedule after Halloween W L Pct.
At Patriots 5 1  
At 49ers 5 1  
Eagles 2 4  
At Saints 5 2  
Packers 7 0  
At Cowboys 3 3  
Redskins 3 3  
At Jets 4 3  
Cowboys 3 3  
  37 20 0.649

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  24. Stephen says:

    If the Giants make the postseason this year they will have earned it. Who the heck did they anger to have to play the Saints, Packers and Patriots all within a few weeks of each other? Brutal stuff.

    I will be impressed with their fortitude and resiliency if they make it to the postseason after all those injuries and this ridiculous schedule.

    1. Brian says:

      “Who the heck did they anger to have to play the Saints, Packers and Patriots all within a few weeks of each other?”

      DeSean Jackson 😉

      If they had won that game, they wouldn’t being playing the Saints or Packers this year.

      1. Stephen says:

        man that is a cruel twist of fate for them. Desean Jacksons punt return is the gift that keeps on giving for eagles fans.

  25. brisulph says:

    If they take care of business in division, the nasty schedule will not have too bad of an effect. However, you just know they will finish with a split record in division, meaning they need to take some tough games as soon as they can to bury the rest of the NFC (thanks to the early season struggles of the Eagles/Cowboys).

    1. giants fan says:

      Agreed, if they can beat the jets + either the saints or the patriots, I think the division is well within reach especially with the eagles and the cowboys having to play one another twice.

  26. Free Plax says:

    we will know all we need to know about the 2011 Giants in the next 6 games. They are getting a lot of players back from injuries so they will be playing pretty much full strength for the first time this season.

  27. packimop says:

    It really seems as if the NFL set them up for another bad run down the stretch with that schedule. They could potentially go 1-8 or 2-7 while playing good football. Tough.

  28. TK19 says:

    Giants are a pretender team right now. Benefits of a supremely easy schedule. They have major holes on that team.

    They are giving up 24.5 points per game against oppenents who average only 19.2 points per game. And even that is skewed by the Bills averaging 31.3 points per game.

    They can’t run the ball, and they can’t stop the run. Eli has played well this year and that has been the saving grace for the Giants, that and they have a +4 turnover ratio.

    It will be very interesting to see how the team fares once the competition level is ratcheted up a couple of notches.

    1. giants fan says:

      I think it’s easy to say that but you’re not considering the fact that the giants haven’t been anywhere near their full potential strength all season. If Prince can shore up the slot they can finally move rolle into the box, and get grant out of the secondary which should help their secondary a lot. A healthy tuck will help make them much more stout against the run which will help the entire defense.

      The Giants will take care of business in the division and I don’t think any team on their schedule (besides maybe the Packers) clearly outclass them.

      1. Stephen says:

        I think its probably asking a little much of a rookie who has missed significant time and has yet to play in an actual game to come in and “shore up” anything. If he does play anywhere near decently well I’ll be extremely impressed.

      2. Stephen says:

        Also, the Patriots clearly outclass the Giants, and I don’t think its close.

        1. giants fan says:

          The Giants Offense has been pretty good this season, evidenced by the fact that the #1 Pats offense scores only about 5 more points per game.

          Meanwhile, the Patriots pass defense is dead last in the league whereas the Giants are middling. The big issue all season for the Giants has been stopping the run but like I said with Tuck back in the lineup, Rolle in the box and grant off the field that should be better as well.

          You might be right about Prince, but even a semi-competent corner is better than playing rolle in the slot and leaving Grant in the backfield. Prince will make this team better, count on it.

          1. Brian says:

            5 points a game is a lot…

            Although, I have to give the Giants credit, with all the injuries they had early on, they have been digging deep.

          2. TK19 says:

            In terms of the Giants being a good offense, keep in mind they defenses they have faced…

            Redskins – 12th
            Rams – 29th
            Eagles 13th
            Cardinals – 26th
            Seahawks – 15th
            Bills – 31st

            Average point per game given up by the teams the Giants have played 23.85. The Giants are averaging 25.7 or roughly 2 points above average.

            Agree with Free Plax below, getting guys back from injury will help, but we will know who the Giants are before Thanksgiving.

            I lean towards pretender, but I’ve been wrong before.

            1. Brian says:

              The Eagles are the 13th ranked defense?

              That doesn’t sound right.

            2. giants fan says:

              Strength of schedule is definitely a factor but it’s not like the teams that everyone is worried about (Pats, Saints, Packers) have top tiered defenses this year either.

              I agree, we’ll know by Thanksgiving. It’s going to be a roller coaster of a ride, but I think the Giants will be able to surprise a few people (granted I’d much rather be 6-0 right now).

  29. giants fan says:

    It would be more interesting to look at the opponents W/L when the Giants played them, as opposed to their total W/L record.

    But generally you’re right, the Giants tend to drop the ball after the first half of the season and are in line for a brutal schedule moving forward.

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