Analyzing a potential Kolb-for-DRC swap: Thinking of DRC as Asante Samuel’s eventual replacement

Philly-bound?

Yesterday, per a “source,” Mike Jurecki of Xtra Sports 910 AM said that the Cardinals are willing to send Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles in a straight-up swap for Kevin Kolb:

Spoke w/ a source… What I’m hearing is Kevin Kolb is the guy and Arizona is prepared to offer DRC straight up.

Makes sense for both teams… AZ desperately needs a QB; Kolb has the biggest upside of the QB that could be become available. They have ID Kolb as the guy.

Philly needs a corner Nnamdi Asomugha is the number one free agent (take QB’s out of he mix), Ike Taylor is 31 yrs old and would like to cash in…DRC is under contract the next 2 yrs making over about a million per yr. So the Eagles won’t have to pay any signing bonus.

This trade has been rumored ever since the Cardinals selected Patrick Peterson with the 5th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, but I really hadn’t put a ton of thought into it until this report came out last night.  Let’s do the classic “Why it makes sense, why it doesn’t make sense” format:

Why it makes sense for the Eagles:

- DRC fits a major need, as the Eagles have a gaping hole at opposite RCB.  Duh.

- The Eagles, depending on which source you believe, are going to be somewhere in the ballpark of about $20 million under the salary cap.  DRC is set to make $950,000 in 2011 and $1,128,750 in 2012.  He’d be a cheap addition that would enable the Eagles to go hard after free agents at other positions where they might find an impact player, like a DE, RT, #2 RB, etc.

- The Eagles always think 2-3 years in advance.  Back in 2002, the Eagles had one of the best CB tandems in the league (Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor) and shocked pretty much everyone by selecting corners in each of the first two rounds in that year’s draft.  They knew Taylor’s contract was set to expire after the 2003 season, at which point he’d be 30 years old and in demand of a huge contract, which he ultimately got in Seattle.  Troy Vincent’s deal was also to end after the 2003 season, at which point he’d be 32.  Vincent signed a lucrative deal with Buffalo.  Perhaps Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie shouldn’t be thought of as the player opposite Asante Samuel, but rather Asante Samuel’s eventual replacement.  Take a look:

CB 2011 contract (age) 2012 contract (age) 2013 contract (age) 2014 contract (age)
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie $950,000 (25) $1,128,750 (26) UFA (27) 28
Asante Samuel $5,900,000 (30) $8,400,000 (31) $10,400,000 (32) UFA (33)

Samuel will be 32 in 2013 and will make over $10 million.  Are the Eagles going to pay that?  Maybe.  Are they likely to re-up Samuel with a lucrative deal when he becomes a FA in 2014?  Don’t bet on it.  Should a trade for DRC come to fruition, obviously the Eagles would look to try to get a long term deal done with DRC before he’s set to be a free agent in 2013.  It would be a deal with the foreseeable future in mind, not just 2011.

Why it doesn’t make sense for the Eagles:

- There are more than a half dozen good corners on the open market in free agency.  Why lose a valuable asset like Kevin Kolb for DRC when you can sign a corner without having to give up any compensation at all?

- While they’d make a great ballhawking tandem, DRC and Asante Samuel would also potentially make up the worst pair of tackling corners in the NFL.  Last year, profootballfocus.com had Asante Samuel as the worst tackling corner in the NFL in 2009.  In 2010, Samuel was 2nd worst; DRC was 8th worst. Football Outsiders had DRC as the worst tackling CB in 2010.  On a side note, I’m not sure how one statistical website has DRC as the 8th worst, and the other has him as the worst, but that’s for another debate.

- I’m not going to pretend like I watched my share of Arizona Cardinals games last season, but the overwhelming opinion of those that did say that DRC had a bad 2010.  Tommy Lawlor of IgglesBlitz does a great job breaking down DRC’s game here.  It’s definitely worth the read.

I personally don’t think a DRC-for-Kolb swap is enough for the Eagles.  I’ve maintained that I think Kolb’s value is something in the ballpark of a 1 and a 4.  DRC would be a good representation of that 1, in my opinion, with the Cards needing to sweeten the pot a bit with something like a mid-round pick.  If the Cards think that Kolb can be their QB for the next decade (and why wouldn’t they if they’re serious about dealing for him), then adding a pick next year shouldn’t be much of a hindrance.

11 Comments

  1. [...] From what I’ve read around the web on this, both Eagles fans and Cardinals fans are opposed to this deal.  Yesterday, I detailed the pros and cons from the Eagles perspective here. [...]

  2. D3Keith says:

    DRC’s style of play is worrisome when you read about it, but don’t forget Castillo is talking up this Cover-2/Tampa 2 business. In *that* scenario, their tackling will be an issue as Cover 2 corners are big in run support, but there’s also a lot of passing off between zones/ inverted coverages and opportunities for gambling and jumping short routes. Having two Asantes would probably be hit-or-miss in that we’d make twice as many big plays and embarrassing no-wrap-up tackles.

    If “fit” is an advantage, along with DRC’s youth and his contract, he’s a really attractive option if we miss out on/don’t go after Nnamdi.

  3. tuna83 says:

    Just picture it…

    DRC and the “presidentcb” and Nate Allen plucking balls out of the sky that (insert wr) is scared to catch because of Jarrett. Kool Aid right?

  4. tuna83 says:

    I do want to start this off JK, I’m a big fan of BGN and BTB. It is the first website I look at in the a.m. and I do it on my mobile phone. I’m kind of a sick puppy.
    I realize this is all sort of crazy talk until we actually land a CB however…

    It is only fair that we compare 2008 as well. Since that was the year DRC was drafted. The Xbox heisting CB that we should’ve been hopeful for as well. I’m pretty sure he was a 4th rounder for whatever it is worth.
    I’m by no means ready to say that Curtis Marsh or Lindley is not NFL capable. That would be ridiculous… I’m just saying DRC is very, very gifted. He is blazing fast (4.29 combine) he can leap 38 ½ vertical and is 6-2. Maybe I’m being that guy but… His tools exceed what we have drafted. He has starting experience and was successful at it. I guess what I’m getting at is he a very high end number two CB with the ability to be a high number one CB. This all just coincides with what you already mentioned about the future of Asante.
    I’m drinking the cool aid, I know. I’ll want this to happen until my eye bleed and the eagles will no doubt trade Kolb for Matt Lienart (spelling? Who cares!) and a 2nd round pick or something insane that makes me question why I continue the abusive relationship I have with the Philadelphia Eagles front office. As a fan of course.. haha

    1. Gary says:

      I have to say, I really like this site too. I definitely prefer it to ESPN’s NFC East Blog (which I actually don’t hate).

    2. Thanks. Very much appreciate it.

  5. tuna83 says:

    The Eagles have tried for a corner how many times in the draft the last few years and not a one of them even comes close to the talent level of DRC. That surely created this need because if we drafted better we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

    I also like the DRC has bulked up this offseason…

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2011/04/29/20110429arizona-cardinals-patrick-peterson-larod-stephens-howling.html

    (Hope my links are not a no no)

    If we are to believe our defensive coordinator, he wants to get back to the basics and preach the fundamentals. Maybe he and our safety out of Temple JJ can teach DRC and Asante how to tackle. He is 6-2 and can leap like a serval cat, which against some of the larger WRs we will see is welcomed!

    Anyone recall DRC’s performance in the Super Bowl when AZ played Pittsburgh? I can’t really but I think DRC played well in that game and even slipped on a play and had enough speed to catch the WR and break up the pass..

    1. Links are OK. I just have to approve them because I get spammed like crazy. Working on it so that I won’t have approve legitimate links. Sorry for the temp. inconvenience.

    2. They haven’t really address the CB position with a high pick. In actuality, they’ve gone one round higher every year, haha.

      2009 – Macho – 5th round – Obviously, that didn’t pan out.
      2010 – Trevard Lindley – 4th round – Too early to judge.
      2011 – Curtis Marsh – 3rd round – TBD.

      It’s too early to call Lindley and Marsh bad picks.

  6. Immynimmy says:

    Add a 2nd rounder in 2012 and I think the Eagles would take it.

    I’m still on the fence about this trade going down with no picks. I mean, what would you rather have…
    1 + 4
    or
    DRC + 2nd/3rd.

  7. The Legend says:

    I would want another draft pick. As far as him being Asante’s replacement that makes sense. I was watching the first game against the Giants yesterday & it may have been a in the moment comment but Asante said that he might not play after his contract is done because of all the new rules(he got flagged for a clean hit).

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